New arenas in Edmonton and Regina stoke debate over CalgaryNext project

In Edmonton, tens of thousands are lining up for a sneak preview of Rogers Place.

Source: New arenas in Edmonton and Regina stoke debate over CalgaryNext project

I had no problem with the concept, or $200 million

Councilor Keating is dreaming in technicolor if he thinks Calgary tax payers can get away with only a $200 million tax bite for an NHL hockey rink.  $200 is to get Calgary hooked; we’re looking at over a billion dollars that we don’t have.

Fieldhouse society refloats Foothills Athletic Park with CalgaryNext in doubt

The Calgary Multisport Fieldhouse Society says it can’t continue to rely on the city to come up with the money to build a fieldhouse if it wants to see a multi-sport indoor facility built anytime soon.

Source: Fieldhouse society refloats Foothills Athletic Park with CalgaryNext in doubt

Foothills Athletic Park was the site selected for a field house years ago by civic planners.  The Flames field-house promotion was an arrogant grab for public funds by a private enterprise (the Flames).

 

It was an arrogant grab for funds by a  private enterprise (the Flames) the height of arrogance for the Flames to promot West Village as a new sit for the project; this was a blatant grab by a

“If business does well so will our city … if we can build a downtown with more density … it will be good for business.”

Really.  There’s more to life and living than just business as a criterion for what we do.

This Business In Calgary article, March 2016, promotes the proposed CalgaryNEXT project, although it purports to be an objective analysis.  The publisher of the magazine states that if “business does well so will our city” (page 36).

The owners contribution to the proposed project would be borrowed money, which, “if the city is unwilling to grant this loan“, they will seek another source.

The CalgaryNEXT proposal should be rejected.  No city planner has envisioned a hockey arena for this part of our city; and, we should not be subsidizing private business.

 

Gary Bettman’s push for public funds for Calgary Flames arena — for benefit of wealthy owners — displays next-level gumption | National Post

the city thinks it is gaining a valuable new asset and a few short years later it realizes it bought a lemon.But teams want new arenas because they provide many new revenue streams for the team in question: luxury suites, seat licenses, bars, shops, basically everywhere but the loo is set up to steer money toward ownership. If the public can help offset the initial investment in such a facility, all the better for the team. And, when the new building is completed, the value of the team is instantly much higher. That supplements the growth in franchise values that has already been driven by the huge jump in broadcasting fees.

Source: Gary Bettman’s push for public funds for Calgary Flames arena — for benefit of wealthy owners — displays next-level gumption | National Post

War of words over Flames’ CalgaryNEXT proposal not ‘useful,’ says city manager | Calgary Herald

“It is not an overstatement to say the future stability, viability and continuity of the Calgary Flames, and perhaps the city of Calgary, rests on the achievement of CalgaryNEXT,” Bettman told the crowd.

Source: War of words over Flames’ CalgaryNEXT proposal not ‘useful,’ says city manager | Calgary Herald

“It is not an overstatement to say the future stability, viability and continuity of the Calgary Flames, and perhaps the city of Calgary, rests on the achievement of CalgaryNEXT,” Bettman told the crowd.

Oh oh, Calgary is going to slip into the Pacific Ocean if it doesn’t build the proposed arena.

Gary Bettman push for CalgaryNext has locals hot under the collar – Calgary – CBC News

The NHL commissioner’s heated conversation Tuesday morning on the Calgary Eyeopener did not sit well with some of our listeners.

Source: Gary Bettman push for CalgaryNext has locals hot under the collar – Calgary – CBC News

The Flames attempt to boast support for its sagging proposal for a new arena by bringing in the NHL commissioner backfires.

Calgarians and the mayor must ’embrace’ Flames’ arena project, says NHL commissioner | Calgary Herald

The National Hockey League’s top boss begged Calgary’s elected officials, business and community leaders Monday to back the Flames’ pitch to build a $890-million sports complex in the city’s west downtown. NHL commissioner Gary Bettman made his remarks at a sold-out luncheon address to the Calgary Chamber of Commerce in which he talked about the…

Source: Calgarians and the mayor must ’embrace’ Flames’ arena project, says NHL commissioner | Calgary Herald

Calgary “must” not do anything, least of all pay for a arena that benefits a private business more than the City.

The Flames are a hockey team and should stick to trying to win a Stanley Cup.  Leave the urban development to the expert city planners at City Hall.

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman says ‘Flames need a new arena,’ puts pressure on Calgary to complete project | National Post

Mayor Naheed Nenshi: ‘I know that Calgarians require very wealthy people from New York to come and tell us what we need to do’

Source: NHL commissioner Gary Bettman says ‘Flames need a new arena,’ puts pressure on Calgary to complete project | National Post

Bettman says he can’t understand why Calgary isn’t moving ahead on the Flames proposed new arena.  Well, it’s because it’s a poorly thought out and presented idea, that’s why Mr. Bettman.  It’s for the wrong part of town and it costs too much taxpayer dollars.

Bettman Lobbies for CalgaryNext, Mayor Responds

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman was in Calgary lobbying for the CalgaryNext arena project Monday. Mayor Naheed Nenshi continued to stand up to the league.

Source: Bettman Lobbies for CalgaryNext, Mayor Responds

In an effort to light a fire under flagging support for its proposed new arena, the Flames brought in the NHL’s commissioner to issue veiled threats of opportunities lost and the team leaving Calgary if we don’t build it a new arena.  It the proposed arena is such a good deal, the Flames should build it itself.

Obviously it isn’t a good deal, that’s why the Flames want taxpayers to pay for it.

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman urges city to get moving on CalgaryNext

NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman made a rallying cry — even referencing the “Battle of Alberta” — about the urgency to make the CalgaryNext arena project a reality sooner rather than later.

Source: NHL commissioner Gary Bettman urges city to get moving on CalgaryNext

Arenas built with public money are losers.  If the NHL needs a new arena, it can move very quickly by itself by putting up its own money.

Don’t be so quick to dismiss CalgaryNEXT’s merits | Diane Colley-Urquhart

Re: “No corporate welfare for CalgaryNEXT,” Paige MacPherson, Opinion, Sept. 9Well — they do intend to pay for their “flashy arena desires” — not taxpayers! There were so many ill-founded politically expedient statements and assumptions in this piece that I felt compelled to respond.

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Meetings and consultations for arena plan

NEXT STEPS

Consulting Calgarians on new arena plan:

business_conference_400_clr_3835Where do we go from here?

 

After announcing plans to build an $890 million arena, event centre and fieldhouse, the next step for Calgary Sports and Entertainment Corp. officials will be to begin meeting with various levels of government, said president and CEO Ken King, while city officials will start engaging Calgarians and looking into the cleanup of the creosote-contaminated site.

“Essentially this is the

Formal request,” said King. “What we want to do now is begin the dialogue on a (Community Revitalization Levy), that’s a dialogue that takes place between the (Calgary Municipal Land Corp., which manages cityowned lands) the city and the province.”

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Flames to meet with stakeholders to discusses viability of CalgaryNEXT proposal | Calgary Herald

Calgary Flames executives will join a meeting next week with stakeholders in tourism, civic affairs and amateur sport to discuss the viability of the CalgaryNEXT proposal. In a meeting with the Herald’s editorial team Thursday, Ken King, CEO of the Calgary Sports and Entertainment Corp., confirmed he will meet next week with city officials, Tourism…

Source: Flames to meet with stakeholders to discusses viability of CalgaryNEXT proposal | Calgary Herald

Flames to meet with stakeholders to discusses viability of CalgaryNEXT proposal

Calgary Flames executives will join a meeting next week with stakeholders in tourism, civic affairs and amateur sport to discuss the viability of the CalgaryNEXT proposal. In a meeting with the Herald’s editorial team Thursday, Ken King, CEO of the Calgary Sports and Entertainment Corp., confirmed he will meet next week with city officials, Tourism…

Source: Flames to meet with stakeholders to discusses viability of CalgaryNEXT proposal

There are many stakeholders mentioned in this article, but they are all potential beneficiaries of CSE’s proposed project.  By their absence, financially responsible taxpayers lose the public relations war by default.

The wrong question is being asked.  The question being asked publicly is “would you like this bright, shiny new thing”, for which the answer is immediately yes.  If the question were “would you like to pay for this new thing”, the answer would be no.

Braid: A visionary arena project, wrapped in mystery

The Calgary Flames’ arena proposal for the west end is brilliant. It’s also a dream wrapped in a mystery shrouded in fog. At this stage, the Flames can answer virtually no questions about the biggest building and revitalization project ever proposed for Calgary. With the hockey rink, event centre, football stadium and fieldhouse all in one…

Source: Braid: A visionary arena project, wrapped in mystery

Local amateur sports community intrigued by CalgaryNEXT’s field house vision | Calgary Herald

Many members of Calgary’s amateur sports community, especially those in need of facilities, are in favour of CalgaryNEXT’s vision of a multi-sport field house stadium. But there are also plenty of questions surrounding the proposal. The presentation revealed by Calgary Sports and Entertainment Group last week included a state of the art field house with…

Source: Local amateur sports community intrigued by CalgaryNEXT’s field house vision | Calgary Herald