Wildrose suggests province should stay on fringe of CalgaryNext proposal | News Talk 770 (CHQR)

Source: Wildrose suggests province should stay on fringe of CalgaryNext proposal | News Talk 770 (CHQR)

Opposed, maybe?  This is a bit of prevaricating by wild Rose.  Com’ on guys, you’re either for it or against it!

Provincial money not ruled out for CalgaryNext arena project

Alberta’s municipal affairs minister says she’s not inclined to use taxpayer money for a new professional sports complex in Calgary, but she’s not closing the door either.

Source: Provincial money not ruled out for CalgaryNext arena project

This is an example of a politician talking about something outside her range of expertise.  She should talk to the finance minister who will tell her that there isn’t any money for a proposed Flames arena.

Sport Calgary watching CalgaryNEXT from the sidelines, for now – 660 NEWS

The debate over the massive CalgaryNEXT arena, football stadium, fieldhouse project, really heated up this week when the NHL commissioner was in town. So what does Sport Calgary think? Murray Sigler is with the umbrella organization for several amateur sport groups in the city. He was on Sportsnet 960 The Fan with Rob Kerr. Sigler […]

Source: Sport Calgary watching CalgaryNEXT from the sidelines, for now – 660 NEWS

The expert urban planners and city recreation department have been planning file houses for Foothills and North Glenmore for years.  They have the demographic data and the city vision that the flames do not.  the Flames should stick to hockey and try to win a Stanley cup

Economists say subsidies (tax dollars) for arenas not justified

“The evidence reveals a great deal of consistency among economists doing research in this area. That evidence is that sports subsidies cannot be justified on the grounds of local economic development, income growth or job creation, those arguments most frequently used by subsidy advocates. The paper also relates survey evidence showing that economists in general oppose sports subsidies.”

http://college.holycross.edu/RePEc/spe/CoatesHumphreys_LitReview.pdf

Gary Bettman’s push for public funds for Calgary Flames arena — for benefit of wealthy owners — displays next-level gumption | National Post

the city thinks it is gaining a valuable new asset and a few short years later it realizes it bought a lemon.But teams want new arenas because they provide many new revenue streams for the team in question: luxury suites, seat licenses, bars, shops, basically everywhere but the loo is set up to steer money toward ownership. If the public can help offset the initial investment in such a facility, all the better for the team. And, when the new building is completed, the value of the team is instantly much higher. That supplements the growth in franchise values that has already been driven by the huge jump in broadcasting fees.

Source: Gary Bettman’s push for public funds for Calgary Flames arena — for benefit of wealthy owners — displays next-level gumption | National Post

War of words over Flames’ CalgaryNEXT proposal not ‘useful,’ says city manager | Calgary Herald

“It is not an overstatement to say the future stability, viability and continuity of the Calgary Flames, and perhaps the city of Calgary, rests on the achievement of CalgaryNEXT,” Bettman told the crowd.

Source: War of words over Flames’ CalgaryNEXT proposal not ‘useful,’ says city manager | Calgary Herald

“It is not an overstatement to say the future stability, viability and continuity of the Calgary Flames, and perhaps the city of Calgary, rests on the achievement of CalgaryNEXT,” Bettman told the crowd.

Oh oh, Calgary is going to slip into the Pacific Ocean if it doesn’t build the proposed arena.

Gary Bettman push for CalgaryNext has locals hot under the collar – Calgary – CBC News

The NHL commissioner’s heated conversation Tuesday morning on the Calgary Eyeopener did not sit well with some of our listeners.

Source: Gary Bettman push for CalgaryNext has locals hot under the collar – Calgary – CBC News

The Flames attempt to boast support for its sagging proposal for a new arena by bringing in the NHL commissioner backfires.

Calgarians and the mayor must ’embrace’ Flames’ arena project, says NHL commissioner | Calgary Herald

The National Hockey League’s top boss begged Calgary’s elected officials, business and community leaders Monday to back the Flames’ pitch to build a $890-million sports complex in the city’s west downtown. NHL commissioner Gary Bettman made his remarks at a sold-out luncheon address to the Calgary Chamber of Commerce in which he talked about the…

Source: Calgarians and the mayor must ’embrace’ Flames’ arena project, says NHL commissioner | Calgary Herald

Calgary “must” not do anything, least of all pay for a arena that benefits a private business more than the City.

The Flames are a hockey team and should stick to trying to win a Stanley Cup.  Leave the urban development to the expert city planners at City Hall.

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman says ‘Flames need a new arena,’ puts pressure on Calgary to complete project | National Post

Mayor Naheed Nenshi: ‘I know that Calgarians require very wealthy people from New York to come and tell us what we need to do’

Source: NHL commissioner Gary Bettman says ‘Flames need a new arena,’ puts pressure on Calgary to complete project | National Post

Bettman says he can’t understand why Calgary isn’t moving ahead on the Flames proposed new arena.  Well, it’s because it’s a poorly thought out and presented idea, that’s why Mr. Bettman.  It’s for the wrong part of town and it costs too much taxpayer dollars.

Nenshi to Bettman’s push of CalgaryNEXT: “that’s not how we operate” – 660 NEWS

Calgary’s mayor is standing firm on the City’s review of the CalgaryNEXT project, after the NHL commissioner gave a presentation urging the local government to embrace it. Gary Bettman told a Calgary Chamber of Commerce audience the project needs to happen, noting the Flames will be in the oldest NHL arena by 2017 and won’t […]

Source: Nenshi to Bettman’s push of CalgaryNEXT: “that’s not how we operate” – 660 NEWS

Good to see the Mayor is taking a practical approach to a very poorly thought out proposal for a new arena.

NHL commissioner Gary Bettman urges city to get moving on CalgaryNext

NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman made a rallying cry — even referencing the “Battle of Alberta” — about the urgency to make the CalgaryNext arena project a reality sooner rather than later.

Source: NHL commissioner Gary Bettman urges city to get moving on CalgaryNext

Arenas built with public money are losers.  If the NHL needs a new arena, it can move very quickly by itself by putting up its own money.

New poll finds Calgarians are torn on CalgaryNext plan for multi-sport complex

The poll suggests that Calgarians are split on whether to support a proposed plan for a $1 billion sports complex for the Flames and Stampeders and whether public money should be used to build it.

Source: New poll finds Calgarians are torn on CalgaryNext plan for multi-sport complex

Dig into this a bit more, and it is clear that the issue is “who pays”?  If it is the Flames, the response is go ahead, it’s private money for a private business.

If it is taxpayers to the tune of between $2,000 and $4,000 each, forget about it!

Guiding principles for downtown Flames arena development

Project Guidelines
Set by Council *
What Has Happened
So Far
1.      Public money must be used for public benefit This is wiggle room for Councillors to say an NHL franchise is good for City pride.  It should say that Public money must not be used for a Flames hockey arena.
2.      There must be extensive stakeholder consultation, public engagement and open and transparent communications with Calgarians Calgary’s city council secretly approved the $36.9-million purchase of contaminated land — now being pitched as part of the site for a new downtown arena and stadium complex … [MATT MCCLURE, CALGARY HERALD, August 18, 2015]
3.      West Village must be designed and developed as a vibrant mixed-use neighborhood City of Calgary urban planners know more about this than a hockey club pitching for a free arena.
4.      Any new fieldhouse must meet the needs of key stake-holders ― including but not limited to the University of Calgary, amateur sports groups and the general public City Recreation, after lengthy demographic study, concluded that a fieldhouse should be at Foothills and another at Glenmore, not downtown.
5.      Any new arena-stadium/event facility located within of near Calgary’s city centre must complement the existing amenities of the city centre, and contribute to its long-term vibrancy and appeal. Would you like a hockey arena in your neighborhood?  I don’t think so.
6.      The cost of remediating contamination of the West Village site should be the responsibility of the polluter(s) to the extent that such recovery is legally possible. Why hasn’t it already been cleaned: is it physically possible?
*Helen Pike, Calgary metroNEWS, November 12, 2015

CalgaryNext plebiscite: Your responses to the idea of a public vote on new complex – Calgary – CBC News

Here’s what you had to say about the idea of putting a proposal for a new sports complex to a public vote. And boy, did you have a lot to say.

Source: CalgaryNext plebiscite: Your responses to the idea of a public vote on new complex – Calgary – CBC News

We do not elect Councilors to build billion dollar arenas.  We elect them to build parks and roads, provide water and electricity, and remove snow.  They do not have a mandate to commit massive public funds for private business (the Flames).

Let the public decide in a binding plebiscite or referendum.  Better yet, make it a major election issue in the next civic election1

Should Calgary’s new arena and stadium project go to a plebiscite? – Calgary – CBC News

When it comes to a new sports complex, and whether it’s in “the public benefit,” the question could be put to a plebiscite. But Mayor Naheed Nenshi doesn’t want to go there, so CBC’s Rob Brown takes a look at our options.

Source: Should Calgary’s new arena and stadium project go to a plebiscite? – Calgary – CBC News

A public vote should be binding, whether it is a plebiscite or a referendum.  The question should be “Would you pay more than $2,000 each for a professional hockey arena?” and not “Would you like a new hockey arena?”

Nenshi says revitalization levy for CalgaryNEXT project won’t work

Early analysis suggests using a $200-million community revitalization levy to partially bankroll the Calgary Flames group’s mega sports complex in west downtown won’t work, Mayor Naheed Nenshi said in a recent year-end interview.  This summer, Calgary Sports and Entertainment Corp. pitched an ambitious plan to build a new NHL arena, CFL stadium and public field…

Source: Nenshi says revitalization levy for CalgaryNEXT project won’t work